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JNArno
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Eleriel
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Date d'inscription : 2009-08-27

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PostSubject: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:18

So, I just finished talking with the Hungarian deputy of Foreign Affairs, and I think we made some real progress.

They are going to discuss our liberation, and they have a few conditions:

-A Non Agrresion Pact. Not a problem, I said they would have it.
-We have to pay for the RW. It was our plan anyway, so I said yes.
-Pay a fine OR buy theocratic companies. I said I would need to know how much the fine is before I choose which of the 2 options.

That's all. Having agreed to the general idea, he said he would write a contract, and talk about it with the government. He understands the importance of the RW on the 22nd, and he said that I would get a response in a few days.
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Sirmoilamain

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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:20

What could I say except "Good job minister"
No, wait and see. But I hope we won't too much
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:20

Actually i'm president, not minister Razz
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Sirmoilamain

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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:30

Eleriel wrote:
Actually i'm president, not minister Razz

I though it was Renouille, Mister President!
I guess I need to check my eyes Very Happy

Just a little question. Is it for all Switzerland or just one region?
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:34

What will probably happen is that we would get 1 region to start off with, and the others would come later. Not completely sure about that, it still needs to be discussed, but we have to wait for total government approval.
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JNArno
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:58

Try to ask them for a single fine for all the country and not for each...
nice mister president! we're doing well!
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:58

good job Eleriel Wink

but we shouldn't forget about the efforts of the new ambassador to Hungary,

me!! lol!
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyThu 17 Sep - 0:59

I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that BB is the one who allowed me to have a discussion with the Hungarians. So thank you very much BB, without you it wouldn't have been possible Smile
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyFri 18 Sep - 21:20

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

Good and Bad news, as allways Smile

I have just finished talking with the Hungarians again. For the moment, it seems that we are all set to get eSwitzerland back, starting with Deutschschweiz. This is NOT 100% certain yet, but they seem to be pretty confident about freeing them under certain conditions. And for the moment things are going smoothly, so i'm going to say things are good.

The bad news is that the conditions have changed. They no longer want us to pay the RW, the will pay for those themselves. But we will need to buy the theo companies or give them the equivalent in gold, and the NAP still stands. Sounds perfect for the moment. Except I got an estimation of the price of the companies: 1415 gold. This number MAY STILL go up. How will we pay this? Well they are going to think about 2 possibilities:

-We get all our regions back and pay little by little.
-We pay to get each region back.

This means that money is more crucial than EVER. I therefore URGE EVERYONE to donate whatever they can to the SNB : http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1596353 In order to help us get that sum.
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JNArno
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptySat 19 Sep - 2:23

waouh... that's a lot of money... and how many will the country gain each day with the taxes? i mean... if during 12 months we can't do anything beacause of those golds...

but thanks for the news!

by the way, speaking of you organisation: you should change the name, for now, we are 30, it's ok to have a word where a letter is wrong but imagine in a year, when other people will play, it won't be easy for them! imagine the switzerland population grow up to 1'000! it would be impossible...
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptySat 19 Sep - 2:31

Well for the moment we're not many. Plus it will cost 5g to create a new one, I prefer to keep those 5g for the Hungarians for the moment.
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptySat 19 Sep - 3:02

Let me make this clear: IF WE WANT FREEDOM WE NEED GOLD, PLEASE DONATE

http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1596353 To that Organization. It would be really stupid to have a deal, but not be able to free switzerland because we don't have any gold. So I ask all of you to make sacrifices and do you whatever you can, give whatever you can for a good cause. I will be donating 20g as soon as I finish writing this message. Please do the same.
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptySun 20 Sep - 20:19

Right, mostly bad news. The hungarians have a problem because I am not the official figure. Being chosen by you guys is not enough for them. So they are still discussing what will happen and when. I will keep you updated when I know more.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyMon 21 Sep - 20:56

They're such idiots and anal! Evil or Very Mad

What's their real problem? Oh yes! It makes a real difference if you are an inofficial figure! Yes! If you're just a president in exile our goal doesn't remain the same! Suspect Rolling Eyes I don't know, but I just begin to feel like Cliff, they haven't got any interests to free eSwitzerland... Evil or Very Mad
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Renouille
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyMon 21 Sep - 21:30

Pascal => The admin can't make sanction if Eleriel doesn't is a real president
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 0:33

any news since then?
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 1:03

TOP NEWS, JUST GOT THIS:

Hello Eleriel,
we had a discussion tonight, our president, our MoFA, my colleague (who is a deputy MoFA as me) and me. We made the final decision.
- The RW can start in Deutschschweiz on the 22nd of September, at 10 PM (servertime) that is 7 AM CET on Wednesday.
- You will pay the costs of the RW and you have to buy theocratic companies for 500 gold. You will get one region for this price. You have to buy these companies until the 22nd of September, 11 PM CET (deadline).
- We won’t sign a contract until the new president of eSwitzerland is elected on the 5th of October.
- You will get back the other regions after signing the contract (including a non-agressive pact) and buying the rest of the companies. This contract will contain the schedule of handing over the regions.
- You will have to take care of the elections to secure the congress from theocrats.
- If the theocrat president comes back you will have to impeach him immediately.
Finally we decided to have confidence in you as this game is about confidence.
Best regards,
Tomi


This means we have 24h to find 550gold. Time to move guys !
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 3:58

I am against giving the Hungarians over 500 gold and later pay more "and buying the rest of the companies". Why we must buy this shit theocratic companies? Should keep the Hungarians these companies!
Look at Germany with 1500 citizens, they have payed 1000 Gold to Hungary and needed over 3 months for this case. Maybe once we have 200 citizens and if we would pay this over 500 Gold, we need more as 2-3 years. This conditions are unacceptable, we are very long dependent and a excessive national debt Evil or Very Mad.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 8:42

and do you see any other way to be free? Hungary will never give us a region for free... and by the way it may not be lost money: we will own those company, right?

by the way: do we have a list of which copmanies we have?
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 9:44

This is just unthinkable! There are great risks that eSwitzerland falls in other hands than ours... How many companies had the Theocrats got? 500 golds are just unthinkable. Neutral mainly the Germans had to pay only 1000 Gold for all Germany!
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Renouille
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 9:51

They leave no choice. If we don't accept these conditions, we don't have freedom.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 10:06

If they ask you to jump through the window you do it?
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Renouille
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 10:32

If I must give my life for my country, why not ?

It's not just IG, IRL i'm also a very patriotic men, you can ask Himgadril and he will confirm that Wink
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 10:55

Guys, we already have 400 gold, we just need an extra push. Its not buying the companies + giving gold to hungary, its one of the 2. We just need a bit more and we're good, don't give up now. Smile
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Eleriel
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PostSubject: Re: Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister   Discussion with Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister EmptyTue 22 Sep - 11:03

Here is a list of the companies:

http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/house-q5-2-licenses-57932 390 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/food-q4-4-licenses-61152 190 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/weapons-q4-3-licenses-182727 190 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/airlines-ii-3-licenses-187639 25 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/house-q2-4-licenses-55352 45 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/food-q3-4-licenses-182917 95 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/grain-q3-ii-grain-stock-189835 90 gold
http://www.erepublik.com/en/company/weapons-q5-194090 390 gold
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