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PostSubject: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyMon 7 Sep - 23:54

Hello everybody!

So the first official contacts between Hungary-Switzerland and France-Switzerland have taken place! For the moment, Hungary supports our cause and wants to negotiate the conditions of a liberation inside of their governement. For them, I'm by now the official representant of this community. So I please you not to contact their president for instance. I also assured them that we wouldn't start any RW without their agreement and that everything else wouldn't come from us.

Renouille has contacts with France.

So please, if you've got any requests, we shall discuss them here!

Thank you!

Let's be optimistic! The glory day might come soon!
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 8 Sep - 17:06

-- MESSAGE FROM THE NEW PRESIDENT OF FRANCE YANN GRAPIN --

Bonjour !
Nous avons encore quelques soucis de mise en place, particulièrement dans l'armée... Mais nous devrions sous peu lancer un projet d'armée spécialisée dans le soutien aux petites nations. Si le moment est approprié, nous vous l'enverrons, pour vous protéger et vous aider. Je vous soutien le temps que votre libération se fait de manière diplomatique.
Dans ce cas, vous pouvez compter sur l'aide de la France au moment opportun.

A bientôt.
Yann

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Traduction in english (with a online translator Embarassed )

Hello !
We still have some worries of installation, particularly in the army... But we should quickly throw a plan of army specialized in the support of the small nations. If the instant is appropriate, we shall send it to you, to protect you and help you. I you support the time which your release makes in a diplomatic way.
In that case, you can count on the help of France at opportune instant.

See you soon.
Yann

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Good news Smile

I stay in contact with him and send him news of the debate with the Hungarians Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 9:28

I'm Antimo. Ex president of Eitaly (2 times) and ex mod of esercito eitaliano (army).
I'm here for rebuild swiss with you. We want Swiss as our country. We make new Swiss as our homeland!
We are ready to fight for this, we are ready to build more company and we are ready to buy ex theocratic company from Hungary.
We have just a pact with Hungary, we need only your agreement for start the new Swiss.
We have only some condition for to do this.
We need a free economy for some product. We can help you with political and government with our candidates. We are about 30 citizen that want help to make big the Swiss.
We can leave you the government and most of ruole, but we want join economic choise with you.
We can make peace in this beautiful country. We need your agreement.
We want start rw in the first region the 22, before the election of congress. We need it for to propose law and for destroy low from Domiboss (president yet).
Mr. Chopin know all my idea. We help players and citizens to have better exp in erepublik. Only this.
Let me know if you agrre or not. We have already spoken with Hungary. We need only your agrrement.
Best regards, Antimo. (in real italian, in game i want be Swiss).
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 10:18

The problem is that Hungary too powerful for us is... Our only chance is the diplomatic way.

And for your conditions, we must discuss about Wink

Anyway, thank you for your help Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 11:41

Mr Renouille, we have good relationship with Hungary. They know my idea. They asked me to buy ex teochratic company only. They agree with the rebuild of Swiss. I spoke with them and we are making a good deal for free Swiss. I need only your agreement.
We can discuss the ruole in new Swiss. I wrote before, we want only help new citizens and player that need help having better life in e-wolrd.
We donate gift, food, tickets to who need our help. Btw we want a homeland for our company and our orgs.
All togheter we can rebuild Swiss, working and menaging on it!
:-)
If we have to discuss some points in detail, let me know what we have to discuss. We leave politic ruole to you. We want only make decision with you without any questions.
We are ready for all. For rw too.
We can do rw the 22 (so we can vote for congress election), in this day we will make a party (one only party is better) in according with you.
I'm here if you need better info.
Antimo.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 11:53

You will have an answer tonight or no later than tomorrow Wink


EDIT: For the RW and many questions, all is already decided, but i tell you these decisions after consulting the other members Wink
For the party, one center liberterian will be created Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 11:59

Great! :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 12:00

Hi Antimo!

If I understand, Hungary gave you the agreement to take back eSwiss? That would be a real good news! Do they have any conditions?
And if I understand you would like to control the economic part, buying companies and setting your organizations. But even if you would be fully involved, I think we will have to discuss about taxes together (at least to approve). For me it would be dangerous to let companies and polito-economical power to the same people. But for this part, I do not have enough experience.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 12:58

Ok, Renouille, i means that we have ready golds and weapons for rw and Hungary agree if we can buy ex theos company...

We agrre on the party. Ok for center libertarian. We don't want political ruole, if congress has 10 members, we want 4 members only for example. We leave politic to real swiss or who want, but we want discuss all with you, with congress and government. For example: you have the government and congress, you can propose the law, the taxes ecc... we agree on it if all togheter we approve. I think is good if we decide all togheter in a forum and after we propose law in game. If you accpet this, we are on the right way ;-)

We have to do all togheter! Menage of state, economic question and so on, but we know that is right lo leave to real Swiss citizen the control of congress and presidency. We can build a great community.
I hope i was been clear. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 13:18

Yes you was clear Wink

But I hope you understand, we still have a bitter taste of the theocrats occupation, so we must seriously discuss about this.

Be patient Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 14:45

Diplomacy is the only way I think.
Btw I don't understand you, Switzerland is currently occupied by Hungary, why are you contact France? Rolling Eyes
As I offered, I can help in the negotiation with Hungary. I think it's time to organize a "conference". We can discuss the whole situation with the hungarian government, they'll tell us, under what terms can we liberate Switzerland.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 15:00

We are doing this. We are not a priority for the president.

And for France, why I contact them ? Because they help us after the RW and deploy forces for help us secure the region. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 15:45

BB, I spoke with Hungary. The only condition they give me is that we have to buy their company (the company ex theos) only this. We are waiting for the list and cost for this company. For the rw we have 30 players ready to fight for Swiss.
I think we don't need help from nobody. Hungary agree if we buy the company. They are for free Swiss too. I speak about this from 10 7 days...
They told me of you! :-)
In according with them we can free swiss easily.
Bye Antimo.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 15:47

You say that you only have to buy the theocratics compagnies to get Switzerland back but what are these compagnies and how much do they cost ?

I don't really understand why Hongary would be OK for leaving Switzerland only if you buy compagnies ? This doesn't make sens for me.

And about the government, taxes and so on, this will be on the forum before set in game so you will be able to see at every time what is happening.

But I don't understand somethin: 4 members of congress for you if we are 10 isn't usefull. With only 4 membres you can't stop any decision so I don't understand why you want these 4 membres.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 15:49

I am opposed to giving seats to anyone. Things will have to be done via elections. As for buying Theocratic companies, there were a lot, it will be very expensive
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:09

Ok, let me tell you one thing. We want only free economy for some product. We want a countru that help growing up our company. If this is impossible we can leave this idea. We can speak about other country.
We haven't more time. I'm sorry.
You have to choise the right way i know. But you must evaluate all problems. We offer protection, we offer a little army. we offer economic deploy...
You have to choice...
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:12

I believe the economy should be free for EVERY product. If you wish to have companies in that atmosphere, then I will gladly accept your offer. If you wish to have state controlled sectors of the economy, I must say I disagree. But then again, I am not the one who makes decisions.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:15

Btw i don't ask to Swiss to buy company. I buy the ex theos company alone, without Swiss found or your found. I don't ask this to you. I hope that it's clear. We (my "ordine dei cavalieri jedi") make deal with ungary for this. I think this is very good for all of you!
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:22

We are OK for a free economy but tell us exactly what you want. For the moment, we don't know much about that and we don't like beeing forced for something we don't know.

If we say: "It's OK for a free economy" but some times later you want something we don't want at all, what are we going to do ? Tell us more about your real project so we can decide if we can agree with it or not.

We have a lot of time. We have 7 days, it's enough for discussing about everything before taking a final decision.

You offer protection but it won't help us as much as Hongary and France protection but it's still a good this for us.
For the econoic deploy, it's a very good thing but we want to know much about what you want in exchange.

And finally one question: why would Hongary agree to free Switzerland if we buy compagnies. Are they affraid of compagnies ? That's stupid... They'd better keep Switzerland than give it back to us. So tell me why they have such a request.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:29

How can you assure us that you will not try to take control of the government? I don't want that Switzerland will be occuped again.
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:30

Ereil, i agree on you! Free economy or what we will decide all togheter...
I told only there are some primary products that we want free as food, gift ecc... all for citizen that need help...
I think we are right! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:41

@All:

We are a group of players that help new citizen and player with problems to be happy in erepublik. We give food, gift, tickets and tutor to who need it. In our country, we have problems with this kind of orgs. We can't decrease taxes, we can't do this without to involve government and congress. Eitaly is a little country but we can't do our best for newbe.

For example the food, we hate taxes for food. We hate income and vat for salary of manufacturing (food). This is a problem for us. The costs are more expansive and we can't be free to menage cauze we are a little group.

We want a homeland for this. For to be free to decrease taxes for food, gift, ecc...
In the same time we want help Swiss to growing up. We product our things, we do our job (helping who need) and we deploy our company. We don't ask nothing, only that we can apply with you law proposal in according with our "mission".

I want an active congress, an active government, but i wan't to substitute us to real Swiss citizen. We ask only to discuss with you future deploy of Swiss.
I hope it's ok for you...

P.S. we aren't your enemy. I sent more pm, more idea from us, i contacted all president of near country. An enemy don't do this, he give what he need and stop. If we ask, it is clear that we want a great community with a good relationship. We don't take any ruole. We are for Helvetic president and helvetic congress. We want only this. Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:49

Oh ok, that's realy better cheers

Would you be ready to don't take the swiss nationality ? Or do you realy want to be swiss ?

And, how do you do to fill the state coffers if they is no taxes ?
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:52

How can you compagnies survive if you give food and gifts to everyone who need ?


You said:
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but i wan't to substitute us to real Swiss citizen.
Don't you mean "But I don't want to subsitute us to real Swiss citizen" ?
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PostSubject: Re: Diplomacy with France and Hungary   Diplomacy with France and Hungary EmptyTue 15 Sep - 16:57

wan't = don't want.
Politic questions aren't for us. we can apply citizenship. When rw ended we will be in Swiss so we apply swiss ctizenship. For found we can make a good system for some taxes, we can donate some of benefit from company and so on...
We can study a business plan.
this is all for now.
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